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. it seems like something they would want to talk about. >> certainly. even michelle obama was offering, you know, her support saying she wants other retailers involved as well in this program. i'm not sure what happened. >> i am assuming they don't want to put themselves on television because. gun debate that is raging at the moment. it's a very difficult subject for the largest seller of weapons in the united states. if you look at what happened in the wake of the shooting that we had here, they removed the bushmaster ar-15 that killed 26 people from their website. and yet we're still selling semiautomatic guns, and many guns sold out of the semiautomatic guns and they say they're not prepared to change their gun mix. they're right in the heart of that debate as the largest licensed gun seller in the united states, as we get moves almost by the hour. the white house trying to change gun policy. >> exactly. >> reluctantly. they didn't want to go in the first instance and said, we didn't realize how important that it was that we were physically. >> we'll discuss that today as well. i wish i
with a payment plan to prioritize how to use what money the government has on hand. but i talked to several fed officials about prior debt ceiling showdowns, and they said the fed said there would be no way to proceed without money in the treasury. we'll see what president obama says in his press conference, if he ratchets up the rhetoric this morning. he's been clear he would negotiate only spending cuts, but not in context of the debt ceiling debate. simon? >> okay. >> steve, are we all agreed on what the word default means in this case? we're going to be talking about it an awful lot. >> great question, carl. it's a political question. you can default on the interest payments, and that's a sort of, i guess the technical or legal version of default. or you can default on obligations. in other words, the government incurs a debt, but doesn't pay it. that's of a different order of magnitude from defaulting on the interest payments on the debt. in general, the white house wants you to believe that default is everything. and it's a terrible, terrible thing to happen. where as i think the republic
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